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Notes on Jazz: In Conversation with Sarah Weller, Head of Music at Ronnie Scott’s

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Music has the rare ability to transcend generations: to create and evoke memories, shape our identities and connect us to one another across time. At Riverstone, where culture and community sit at the heart of the living experience, live music is more than entertainment, it is a shared experience that enriches everyday life.

To explore the power of jazz and what it means to audiences at every stage of life, we spoke to Sarah Weller, Head of Music at Ronnie Scott’s Jazz Club, about legacy, evolution and why music remains a lifelong companion. 

Riverstone is redefining what luxury living over 65 can look like in the UK, placing culture and enrichment at its heart. How do you think engaging with live music can shape, or even elevate, the experience of the next phase of life (i.e. later living)?

Riverstone is a wonderful and progressive initiative. Community and connectivity are essential at any age but especially when you finish your working life and the day-to-day relationships of work colleagues are no longer there. Music is like a relationship you have from when you are born to when life ends; a soundtrack that punctuates all of life’s important moments. When music is important to you then you gravitate to the places that host it, and meet with others who share that love. The beauty of later living is that engagement can be increased, those conversations can continue and music has always had the ability to elevate all life experience.

What is so special about Ronnie Scott’s compared to any other jazz club in the world?

From the moment you walk into Ronnie’s you walk into a world that cocoons you.  The warm colours, the muted lights, the soft velvet seats; it all adds to the ambiance and that’s before the music starts.  Waiters deftly move around the space delivering delicious cocktails and food.  Then the music starts.  You are so close to the best jazz in the world, witnessing something that will be a unique and improvised event that you will be part of, never to be repeated.

You’ve worked across soul, blues, rock, DJ culture and jazz. How has that broad musical life shaped the way you programme music at Ronnie Scott’s?

In every genre there are the artists who are the innovators, the artists who move you and the artists who make you want to move. My passion for jazz and beyond shapes the way I programme.  An email will arrive with some new music and I am instantly excited; I can’t wait to find a space in the programme for it.  It’s less about the style of music and more about my passion for it.

Many Riverstone residents bring decades of listening experience with them. How does programming for an audience with such developed musical taste differ from programming for younger or more casual listeners?

Some people want to hear the familiar and others hunger for the new, but I believe that music is timeless.  If you love music, you will embrace music from any era, it just might have to be framed slightly differently.  Someone in their 60s was born in the 60s, a time of great social change and music revolution.  At Ronnie’s in the 60s you would have seen members of the Beatles watching the latest music coming over from America and even now jazz artists like to reinterpret the music of the Beatles.

As Ronnie Scott’s’ Head of Music, you balance heritage with evolution. How do you honour the club’s legacy while keeping the programme fresh and surprising?

Each generation looks to the past to discover, be inspired, the cycle of invention and re-invention.  Last week we had a band from Poland hugely influenced by the hip hop artist J Dilla but because they were in the UK they referenced Gary Numan, a distinctive pop star from the 70s, then they referenced James Brown from the 60s.  Each generation influences the next, adding their own cultural references and therefore, expanding the vocabulary and re-presenting it to the next generation. Those who remember the music the first time around can enjoy remembering the original references.  I say to my kids all the time, ‘that song you’re listening to, the sample they are using, I have the original of that.’ And so things go on.

Has your own relationship with music changed over the years, and does that influence how you think about audiences today?

When I was five, I said to my mum, ‘I want to be a singer.’ That connection I felt towards music on an instinctive level aged five is exactly how I still feel about music. I might analyse my choices and why I like what I like but instinct now is just hours of listening practise.  I think about audiences a lot. I watch what’s happening on the stage and then I look at the audience and think about the music that appeals to them. My favourite audience is one that has the biggest span of ages because I do believe that music is universal and if open, can appeal to anyone at any age. 

What role do you see jazz playing in people’s lives in the years ahead, particularly as audiences age and expectations of cultural experiences evolve? How do you see jazz fitting into people’s lives over time, particularly as audiences seek deeper, more meaningful cultural experiences?

We pigeon-hole music into genres; it helps with marketing and gives people reference points when choosing what they are coming to see but music is such a big part of our cultural identity. We do Sunday lunches at Ronnie’s, and I used to do a Doris Day tribute show, where I would don a blonde wig and a beautiful 50s dress and sing all my favourite songs from her huge repertoire. Sunday lunches and our brunch shows attract people who used to frequent Ronnie’s in the 60s and are now in their 80s.  Their love for the music hasn’t changed but daytime shows are now preferable to them. They bring along their children and grandchildren.  I love the cross generational shows that everyone can enjoy.  They pass their love of the music to the next generation.  

Jazz is often described as a lifelong companion rather than a phase. What is it about the genre that allows it to evolve alongside listeners as their tastes and perspectives change?

Music is my life-long companion and jazz never ages for me.  Listening to John Coltrane’s Favourite things or Bill Evans’ Peace Piece sound just as fresh.  Maybe it’s the way music was recorded back then but jazz (not all jazz) has such a timeless quality. You can listen to music from the 90s and it sounds so dated because of the production but recording instruments acoustically you hear the beauty of the instrument and the player.  A pure sound. Listening to Sarah Vaughan will never get old to me.  The beauty of her voice is ageless, and no one has ever got close to replicating what she could do. Jazz doesn’t confine; it accepts experimentation, the freedom for it to progress.

Living environments like Riverstone are designed around connection, curiosity and quality of life. What role do you think live music can play in helping people stay emotionally engaged and connected as they grow older?

Music facilitates community, it provokes an emotional connection to people, the places, and events in our lives.  It’s coming together to enjoy a shared experience. Music can cheer you up and music can move you to tears; music is everywhere.  I also believe that music keeps you young – it’s all about embracing the new but still honouring what went before.

What’s something most people don’t realise about how a night at Ronnie Scott’s comes together behind the scenes?

There are hours and hours of work that go into every show. There is no glamour behind the scenes, just a lot of teamwork. Each one of us is a small cog in the machine, working in harmony to provide the night people expect when they walk in. Once the show is over, we are on to the next one. We want people to experience and remember the magic of the institution that is Ronnie Scott’s.  Ronnie’s is 68 this year and I am part of the history.  We have to make sure that Ronnie’s is still around for the next generation to be able to look back on.  I stand on the shoulders of the amazing job done before me.

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